MeraNaamJoker
08-04 05:33 PM
Read the lines in Green
Good Luck on your approval. I think you are Man(strong guess) in a hurry.
I did not mean to make fun out of you. what I meant was that you and your spouse. I guess it did not come out that way. Sorry about that.
Thanks for the details.
Good Luck on your approval. I think you are Man(strong guess) in a hurry.
I did not mean to make fun out of you. what I meant was that you and your spouse. I guess it did not come out that way. Sorry about that.
Thanks for the details.
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gcisadawg
01-23 12:37 AM
No issues if you go back. That can happen to anybody. Nobody is safe in this country.
Make sure you pay off your mortgages if you do and cover all your liabilities.
There should be criminal action against loan defaulters, otherwise lessons won't be learnt.
And if you don't want to persecute these sons of bitches, give a portion of my tax money back, which I paid for last 9 frigging years, which has gone into these bailouts. I'm not even asking for the loss of revenue my company has endured due to our customers (high profile banks) slashing their IT expenditure. I cannot. Don't compensate me for the ripple effect but at least compensate me for the prospect of job losses me and thousands like me face this HISTORIC year of 2009, when a white president has entered the black house ..oops a black president has entered the white house.
(I'm not making anything up, everything I wrote about my company's customers is true).
Immigrants who don't pay off and run away should be extradited and put behind bars.
Yes, we can. Yes, we can change. Yes, we can. And folks, if you don't like my language, consider me insane and leave it at that but give my tax money back not in IOU and promissary notes but in checks.
You should be really fighting these guys...
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/28/business/28wamu.html?_r=1
"Yet even by WaMu�s relaxed standards, one mortgage four years ago raised eyebrows. The borrower was claiming a six-figure income and an unusual profession: mariachi singer.
Mr. Parsons could not verify the singer�s income, so he had him photographed in front of his home dressed in his mariachi outfit. The photo went into a WaMu file. Approved."
Make sure you pay off your mortgages if you do and cover all your liabilities.
There should be criminal action against loan defaulters, otherwise lessons won't be learnt.
And if you don't want to persecute these sons of bitches, give a portion of my tax money back, which I paid for last 9 frigging years, which has gone into these bailouts. I'm not even asking for the loss of revenue my company has endured due to our customers (high profile banks) slashing their IT expenditure. I cannot. Don't compensate me for the ripple effect but at least compensate me for the prospect of job losses me and thousands like me face this HISTORIC year of 2009, when a white president has entered the black house ..oops a black president has entered the white house.
(I'm not making anything up, everything I wrote about my company's customers is true).
Immigrants who don't pay off and run away should be extradited and put behind bars.
Yes, we can. Yes, we can change. Yes, we can. And folks, if you don't like my language, consider me insane and leave it at that but give my tax money back not in IOU and promissary notes but in checks.
You should be really fighting these guys...
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/28/business/28wamu.html?_r=1
"Yet even by WaMu�s relaxed standards, one mortgage four years ago raised eyebrows. The borrower was claiming a six-figure income and an unusual profession: mariachi singer.
Mr. Parsons could not verify the singer�s income, so he had him photographed in front of his home dressed in his mariachi outfit. The photo went into a WaMu file. Approved."
gcformeornot
04-12 01:43 PM
Hi:
I forgot to attach the G-1145 for electronic notification of acceptance of the EAD applications. However I have sent checks. Is there any way to send the G-1145.. or it does not make any difference whether you send those forms?
NK29
you can send separately. On other forums I read that somebody receiving emails... but it emails doesn't arrive in 24hrs.... as the form mentions...
I guess you can just wait for checks to cash and then get RN from back of it.....
I forgot to attach the G-1145 for electronic notification of acceptance of the EAD applications. However I have sent checks. Is there any way to send the G-1145.. or it does not make any difference whether you send those forms?
NK29
you can send separately. On other forums I read that somebody receiving emails... but it emails doesn't arrive in 24hrs.... as the form mentions...
I guess you can just wait for checks to cash and then get RN from back of it.....
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tonyHK12
10-04 10:41 AM
I have been trying to find the latest CIR thread by Pappu (where he talks about it being introduced) from last week (or the week before ?!) but was unable to locate it.
Here it is
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/forum14-members-forum/1606681-cir-introduced-in-the-senate.html#post1994331
Here it is
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/forum14-members-forum/1606681-cir-introduced-in-the-senate.html#post1994331
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Suva
06-28 05:17 PM
I think your calculation is wrong. If there are 8742 applications then it should take less than 3 years not 5 years. In the 2nd case for 14583 applications the wait would be around 5 years instead of 10-12 years. This is due to the fact that every year around 3000 visas go to EB3 category. Though this is a long wait too so either way we need legislative fix for all the cases.
For EB3 Folks with PD's in early - 2003- there are close to 8742 applicants in front of you That is a wait of 5 more years.
For EB3 Folks with PD's in mid 2003 and later - There are 14583 applicants in line before you- That is a wait of 10-12 more years.
Now the only way forward will be to lobby with IV for a legislative fix. Apart from that there is just no option, the sooner people realise that and help IV with advocacy, the better results we will get.
For EB3 Folks with PD's in early - 2003- there are close to 8742 applicants in front of you That is a wait of 5 more years.
For EB3 Folks with PD's in mid 2003 and later - There are 14583 applicants in line before you- That is a wait of 10-12 more years.
Now the only way forward will be to lobby with IV for a legislative fix. Apart from that there is just no option, the sooner people realise that and help IV with advocacy, the better results we will get.
hope_4_best
05-16 07:03 PM
Hi Guys,
Place A has mentioned as the place of birth in my passport and place B has been mentioned as the place of birth in my Birth certificate. Distance between place A and 5 or approximately 3 miles and both the places comes under one Taluk/Mandal.
I would like to know is this going to be a problem in I485/AOS status, if so can you please suggest some way to overcome this problem?
Thanks very much.
Place A has mentioned as the place of birth in my passport and place B has been mentioned as the place of birth in my Birth certificate. Distance between place A and 5 or approximately 3 miles and both the places comes under one Taluk/Mandal.
I would like to know is this going to be a problem in I485/AOS status, if so can you please suggest some way to overcome this problem?
Thanks very much.
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Edison99
09-01 01:49 PM
Congrats NolaIndian32 and enjoy the freedom!
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fall1998
05-24 03:33 PM
Is there anyone whose case was transferred to Local Office and got approval ? My PD is May 24, 2006 EB2 and still no change in status.
Hi,
What does the notification from USCIS about the case transfer say? Does it just say that 'case is transferred and is now being worked on at USCIS office' or does it actually spell out where was it transferred like 'texas service center'?
In two days, I received two such notices, one in which case was transferred to TSC and next one received two days later which does not identify which office it is transferred to.
Hi,
What does the notification from USCIS about the case transfer say? Does it just say that 'case is transferred and is now being worked on at USCIS office' or does it actually spell out where was it transferred like 'texas service center'?
In two days, I received two such notices, one in which case was transferred to TSC and next one received two days later which does not identify which office it is transferred to.
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amitjoey
01-18 08:22 PM
Are we just a bunch of stingy people wanting everything for free!!????
Highskilled people for free stuff? The answer should be NO!
OUT OF THE 300,000 people stuck due to retrogression, only 8500 OR SO are IV members. Out of which not even a 1000 want to commit for minimum of $20/ month. Right now we only have some 120 people committed. That is really a shame!!. Then we find a few (5 or less people) asking what is IV doing with the funds?. What funds?
Highskilled people for free stuff? The answer should be NO!
OUT OF THE 300,000 people stuck due to retrogression, only 8500 OR SO are IV members. Out of which not even a 1000 want to commit for minimum of $20/ month. Right now we only have some 120 people committed. That is really a shame!!. Then we find a few (5 or less people) asking what is IV doing with the funds?. What funds?
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nixstor
05-15 04:05 PM
Hi Guys,
When can we call I mean what are the office hrs for these people. I and most of the people in IV are in office right now and it might not be possible for them to call during regular business Hrs. Can some one update the thread with the Office times of these people It will make it easier for people to schedule the calls...
Print out the phone numbers and message, take a coffee break for 10-15 minutes and round up these offices. The offices are open only until 5 pm. Call them. Those 10-15 min are very well spent, IMO
When can we call I mean what are the office hrs for these people. I and most of the people in IV are in office right now and it might not be possible for them to call during regular business Hrs. Can some one update the thread with the Office times of these people It will make it easier for people to schedule the calls...
Print out the phone numbers and message, take a coffee break for 10-15 minutes and round up these offices. The offices are open only until 5 pm. Call them. Those 10-15 min are very well spent, IMO
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susie
10-10 11:35 PM
continued from previous post
Solutions
Subsection (3) should be reworded to clarify its application to derivative beneficiaries as follows
�(3) RETENTION OF PRIORITY DATE- If the age of an alien is determined under paragraph (1) to be 21 years of age or older,
(A) for the purposes of subsections (a)(4), the alien's petition shall automatically be converted to the appropriate category and the alien shall retain the original priority date issued upon receipt of the original petition, and
(B) for the purposes of subsections (d), the petition on which the alien was a derivative beneficiary shall automatically be converted to a new petition with the appropriate category once their Parent has permanent resident status and the alien shall retain the original priority date issued upon receipt of the alien parent�s original petition. This is without prejudice to a Parent�s right to object to such converted petition. �
This new division into (A) and (B) makes a more appropriate distinction between principal beneficiaries and derivative beneficiaries. (B) also clarifies a Parent who does not want to petition their over 21 unmarried son or daughter, is permitted to oppose the automatic conversion of the application.
In addition, after four and half years since its enactment, the USCIS has still failed to issue implementing rules and a private bill should be introduced requiring the USCIS to perform its statutory duty to provide rules.
If the new points system is implemented, INA, section 203(h), becomes redundant in relation to future applicants. In this case a new provision should be added permitting all derivative beneficiaries to be considered as a child regardless of when they age out and when the petition becomes current. This would be a temporary relief measure for any derivative beneficiary currently subject to the family-based petitions so they do not age out while the remaining petitions are being cleared.
Removal of Child Status Protection Act of 2002 (CSPA), section 8
Section 8 of the CSPA provides provisions preventing the retroactive application of the legislation. As a result many beneficiaries have to wait in excess of 30 years for an immigrant visa. Derivative beneficiaries that were subject to wait times and aged out cannot apply the benefits of the CSPA if their parent�s petition was processed before August 2002. This means they are forced to back of the line; after already having waited up to 20 years, they are forced to wait for another lengthy period up to 20 years in the F2B category.
Therefore, section 8 has to be repealed to enable retroactive applicability. It cannot be right that if these same people had not abided with US immigration laws and entered illegally, they would be able to get status to remain and work in the USA under the proposed Z visa. However, by abiding by the law, they are instead forced to wait outside the USA for over 30 years in total since the start of the original immigrant visa application because they were ejected out of one line due to aging out as a result of the prolonged wait times, only to be forced to the back of a new immigrant visa line.
Dream Act
This is currently incorporated within the STRIVE Act (sections 621 et seq.) and presumably will be brought forward in the upcoming Bill subject to final agreement by the Senators. However, there is ambiguity as to whether children in the USA who enter legally benefit from its provisions. This has to be clarified to ensure it applies not only to children who entered the USA illegally, but also to those who entered legally, such as in derivative status on an E2 visa of their Parent. The ambiguity is made worse because the STRIVE Bill includes the Dream Act in subtitle B of Title VI Legalization of Undocumented Individuals. It is an absurd situation if legal nonimmigrant children are not given at least the same equal treatment as illegal children. The future Bill should incorporate the DREAM Act into a separate Title so does not give the appearance it applies to illegal migrant children only.
E2 Investors and Rep. Heather Wilson�s Proposed E2 Nonimmigrant Investor Adjustment Act of 2007
We strongly reiterate our support for this proposed legislation and urge you to do same. However, we urge you to go further by removing the proposed 3,000 cap or, at the very least, increase the proposed 3,000 annual cap to a more reasonable number such as 20,000 and/or provide annual increases to meet market demand to avoid backlogs and to avoid having to revisit the issue in future. Aside from our own members, E2 investors provide billions of dollars of investment in the US economy and much needed employment. They should be provided with a pathway to permanent residency and citizenship for their dedication and commitment to this country. It is undoubtedly very odd that illegal immigrants are receiving a pathway to permanent residency whereas E2 investors are not. It sends a clear message that entering the USA illegally is preferable because it provides a path to citizenship, whereas entering legally and working hard, investing substantial amounts of capital and employing US citizens for the benefit of the US economy does not (unless you are the extremely rare exception that qualifies under the EB5 investment visa).
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Solutions
Subsection (3) should be reworded to clarify its application to derivative beneficiaries as follows
�(3) RETENTION OF PRIORITY DATE- If the age of an alien is determined under paragraph (1) to be 21 years of age or older,
(A) for the purposes of subsections (a)(4), the alien's petition shall automatically be converted to the appropriate category and the alien shall retain the original priority date issued upon receipt of the original petition, and
(B) for the purposes of subsections (d), the petition on which the alien was a derivative beneficiary shall automatically be converted to a new petition with the appropriate category once their Parent has permanent resident status and the alien shall retain the original priority date issued upon receipt of the alien parent�s original petition. This is without prejudice to a Parent�s right to object to such converted petition. �
This new division into (A) and (B) makes a more appropriate distinction between principal beneficiaries and derivative beneficiaries. (B) also clarifies a Parent who does not want to petition their over 21 unmarried son or daughter, is permitted to oppose the automatic conversion of the application.
In addition, after four and half years since its enactment, the USCIS has still failed to issue implementing rules and a private bill should be introduced requiring the USCIS to perform its statutory duty to provide rules.
If the new points system is implemented, INA, section 203(h), becomes redundant in relation to future applicants. In this case a new provision should be added permitting all derivative beneficiaries to be considered as a child regardless of when they age out and when the petition becomes current. This would be a temporary relief measure for any derivative beneficiary currently subject to the family-based petitions so they do not age out while the remaining petitions are being cleared.
Removal of Child Status Protection Act of 2002 (CSPA), section 8
Section 8 of the CSPA provides provisions preventing the retroactive application of the legislation. As a result many beneficiaries have to wait in excess of 30 years for an immigrant visa. Derivative beneficiaries that were subject to wait times and aged out cannot apply the benefits of the CSPA if their parent�s petition was processed before August 2002. This means they are forced to back of the line; after already having waited up to 20 years, they are forced to wait for another lengthy period up to 20 years in the F2B category.
Therefore, section 8 has to be repealed to enable retroactive applicability. It cannot be right that if these same people had not abided with US immigration laws and entered illegally, they would be able to get status to remain and work in the USA under the proposed Z visa. However, by abiding by the law, they are instead forced to wait outside the USA for over 30 years in total since the start of the original immigrant visa application because they were ejected out of one line due to aging out as a result of the prolonged wait times, only to be forced to the back of a new immigrant visa line.
Dream Act
This is currently incorporated within the STRIVE Act (sections 621 et seq.) and presumably will be brought forward in the upcoming Bill subject to final agreement by the Senators. However, there is ambiguity as to whether children in the USA who enter legally benefit from its provisions. This has to be clarified to ensure it applies not only to children who entered the USA illegally, but also to those who entered legally, such as in derivative status on an E2 visa of their Parent. The ambiguity is made worse because the STRIVE Bill includes the Dream Act in subtitle B of Title VI Legalization of Undocumented Individuals. It is an absurd situation if legal nonimmigrant children are not given at least the same equal treatment as illegal children. The future Bill should incorporate the DREAM Act into a separate Title so does not give the appearance it applies to illegal migrant children only.
E2 Investors and Rep. Heather Wilson�s Proposed E2 Nonimmigrant Investor Adjustment Act of 2007
We strongly reiterate our support for this proposed legislation and urge you to do same. However, we urge you to go further by removing the proposed 3,000 cap or, at the very least, increase the proposed 3,000 annual cap to a more reasonable number such as 20,000 and/or provide annual increases to meet market demand to avoid backlogs and to avoid having to revisit the issue in future. Aside from our own members, E2 investors provide billions of dollars of investment in the US economy and much needed employment. They should be provided with a pathway to permanent residency and citizenship for their dedication and commitment to this country. It is undoubtedly very odd that illegal immigrants are receiving a pathway to permanent residency whereas E2 investors are not. It sends a clear message that entering the USA illegally is preferable because it provides a path to citizenship, whereas entering legally and working hard, investing substantial amounts of capital and employing US citizens for the benefit of the US economy does not (unless you are the extremely rare exception that qualifies under the EB5 investment visa).
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sundarpn
11-13 05:41 PM
how about Washington DC consulate?
I am hoping they are more prompt. It has been 5 working days since I sent mine....
I am hoping they are more prompt. It has been 5 working days since I sent mine....
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indianajuns
08-29 12:45 PM
Same with me!
My children have grown up and are on the verge of aging out, while I am still fighting to find avenues for a new green card application. Jobs are not permanent in the US. Layoffs are a common thing. The immigration processes take much longer than the life of a job. Many people like me end up with unfinished and abandoned immigration process. At the end of 6 years we are able to obtain H1-B visas one year at a time. Provided there is a pending I-140 process. What happens if a I-140 application is denied because of some faulty representation or your employer decides to lay you off?
My question to the senate is. Is this fair? Was it foolish off me to have maintained a legal status and spent so much money for nothing? Perhaps if people like me would have remained in the United States illegally without paying taxes, I might have saved a lot of money and would have been able to apply for a non-immigrant status for a very small fee.
My suggestion to the Senate is:
1. Pass a legislation that protects Legal immigrants who have lived in the United States beyond 6 years, but have been unable to obtain an immigrant status for one thing or the other. Or an H1-B non-immigrant who have come to the country before �9/11� and have stayed in the country through the recession; paid taxes; but because of constant layoffs and half finished immigration processes should be rewarded in this bill. Proofs that immigration processes had been initiated but abandoned because of job changes.
2. Children of Legal non-immigrants who have finished 6 years of stay in the US and are aging out, should be protected, because the state has spent tax money on their education and they have adjusted to a life style and system which will benefit the country. They should not be penalized for no fault of theirs.
3. Children and spouses of H1 Non-immigrants who are educated and can work should be given the opportunity to do so. This way many will legally work and pay taxes. It is a great burden on a single H1-B non-immigrant to be the sole earning member in a family. Currently a dependent of a H1-B is not permitted to work.
4. An I-485 process of immigration should not be cancelled if a pending I-140 is denied. This should be made available once again to the applicant and his or her family if a I-140 process is re-applied within 6 months. It is unfair to make the family file for a I-1485 process once again with additional fees, medical tests, finger printing, work authorization and so on. If a I-1485 has to be reapplied, it means the family has to wait for endless years ahead to wait for their immigration numbers for their country to be available once again.
5. H1-B non-immigrants are educated people who are already here because there is a shortage of manpower in that category. I personally do not see the need for a Labor certification once again to see if there is a shortage in that particular area. H1-B employees go through these process initially before their H1-B�s are approved. These people who have been here for more than 6 years already know the system and can contribute to the country. They do not take away jobs of local people.
6. A Non-immigrant who has purchased a house in the United States has already taken the first step of naturalization. They put their money here. They do not take money out of the country. I believe they should be rewarded with a non-immigrant quota/status. This will bring a phenomenal real estate boom in the country and a welcome change to the economy.
My children have grown up and are on the verge of aging out, while I am still fighting to find avenues for a new green card application. Jobs are not permanent in the US. Layoffs are a common thing. The immigration processes take much longer than the life of a job. Many people like me end up with unfinished and abandoned immigration process. At the end of 6 years we are able to obtain H1-B visas one year at a time. Provided there is a pending I-140 process. What happens if a I-140 application is denied because of some faulty representation or your employer decides to lay you off?
My question to the senate is. Is this fair? Was it foolish off me to have maintained a legal status and spent so much money for nothing? Perhaps if people like me would have remained in the United States illegally without paying taxes, I might have saved a lot of money and would have been able to apply for a non-immigrant status for a very small fee.
My suggestion to the Senate is:
1. Pass a legislation that protects Legal immigrants who have lived in the United States beyond 6 years, but have been unable to obtain an immigrant status for one thing or the other. Or an H1-B non-immigrant who have come to the country before �9/11� and have stayed in the country through the recession; paid taxes; but because of constant layoffs and half finished immigration processes should be rewarded in this bill. Proofs that immigration processes had been initiated but abandoned because of job changes.
2. Children of Legal non-immigrants who have finished 6 years of stay in the US and are aging out, should be protected, because the state has spent tax money on their education and they have adjusted to a life style and system which will benefit the country. They should not be penalized for no fault of theirs.
3. Children and spouses of H1 Non-immigrants who are educated and can work should be given the opportunity to do so. This way many will legally work and pay taxes. It is a great burden on a single H1-B non-immigrant to be the sole earning member in a family. Currently a dependent of a H1-B is not permitted to work.
4. An I-485 process of immigration should not be cancelled if a pending I-140 is denied. This should be made available once again to the applicant and his or her family if a I-140 process is re-applied within 6 months. It is unfair to make the family file for a I-1485 process once again with additional fees, medical tests, finger printing, work authorization and so on. If a I-1485 has to be reapplied, it means the family has to wait for endless years ahead to wait for their immigration numbers for their country to be available once again.
5. H1-B non-immigrants are educated people who are already here because there is a shortage of manpower in that category. I personally do not see the need for a Labor certification once again to see if there is a shortage in that particular area. H1-B employees go through these process initially before their H1-B�s are approved. These people who have been here for more than 6 years already know the system and can contribute to the country. They do not take away jobs of local people.
6. A Non-immigrant who has purchased a house in the United States has already taken the first step of naturalization. They put their money here. They do not take money out of the country. I believe they should be rewarded with a non-immigrant quota/status. This will bring a phenomenal real estate boom in the country and a welcome change to the economy.
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Lasantha
03-28 03:31 PM
Randy,
Murthy's post sounds somewhat convincing because they heard it from Openheimer. On the other hand Gotcher whom I really respect was very confident in his forum that this category will keep on moving till July. So I have hope that we will see it move few months at least !!! I am keeping my fingers crossed.
BTW Randy, are you SeanD from the Gotcher forum? :cool:
My PD is Aug 2005
Just a month behind :(
Murthy's post sounds somewhat convincing because they heard it from Openheimer. On the other hand Gotcher whom I really respect was very confident in his forum that this category will keep on moving till July. So I have hope that we will see it move few months at least !!! I am keeping my fingers crossed.
BTW Randy, are you SeanD from the Gotcher forum? :cool:
My PD is Aug 2005
Just a month behind :(
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tonyHK12
01-16 11:59 AM
Here is a very good document from the 'Advocacy' tab in the IV site on meeting lawmakers:
http://immigrationvoice.org/media/HowTo_Guide_MeetLawmakers.doc
http://immigrationvoice.org/media/HowTo_Guide_MeetLawmakers.doc
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needhelp!
04-14 04:44 PM
Lots of people getting excited about the new bills.. How many have it in them to run/work for it??
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03-10 12:44 PM
Wishing all the best to IV for this noble effort!
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05-16 01:21 PM
Thanks for the responses. Should we submit the original medical report or copy is fine?
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PlainSpeak
01-12 03:54 PM
If you trust IV Core and its advisory board and believe that they know how politics works better than you and me you are entitled to your opinion and you may be right too. Certainly IV Core knows how political work, there is no denying that but my point of contention is that does what ICV Core believe and are working towards match with what is good for EB3?
And there as the bard would say lies the rub
Now again in response to that you and most of the people would agree that IV Core goals is good for EB3. Now out of all the people who agree how many are EB3 and how many are EB2. Again IV Core would say many EB3 agree with what they do because IV is not about helping anyone, IV is about helping yourselves (EB3 or EB2), and when it comes to the fact of helping ourselves i for one feel that IV core would do better to listen to the EB3 voice out there. Why do i feel EB3 specific voice is not being heard? Well the answer to that is very simple. It is because EB3 as a whole has NOT seen any benefit out of the rule changes which happened till now and any new initiative which gets the support of IV.
As to your statement about below
The idea you preferred has no chance, given the harsh economic situation and anti-immigration sentiment at this time
My commnts to that is that YES it is a harsh economic situation and YES anti immigrants sentiments is on the rise but if i am an an anti immigrant i would oppose immigrants as a whole. I would not oppose EB2 immigrants less because they have MS degrees and i would not oppose EB3 less because they are stuck in the immigration process and harsh economics time is harsh for everyone (EB2 and EB3) and also citizens so the same logic of anti immigranst sentiments would apply
Reagrding your another statement
In this case, EB3 will have to wait forever. Now, which one do you like? I think people should be realistic.
What i like is not what is important. What is important is what is done is the right thing., If it is the question of EB3 waiting fore ever (say 10 years) or EB3 waiting more than forever (say 20 years) i would plum for which ever option gives relief to people (even if it extends my GC wait time) who are of older priority date and who should get relief, not because they have waited for so long but because they waited for so long in the line and followed all the rules and it is just mind blowing that people who have applied for GC in 2008 and 2010 and expecting that they deserve to get GC because they are EB2 and no other reason.
Now to that all EB2 guys will reply back saying Are you nuts, that how the world works, if you want a GC sooner get a US degree or apply in EB2 no one is stopping you and all that kinds of statements. It gets ugly too but what everyone forgets is that it is easier to be sanctimonious and give advise when you are not being effected. When you are at the other end (Remember the bottom of the totem pole) that is when you all these things come back to bite you and you cannot justify what you said earlier.
Think about it illegals want GC for everyone illegal. Legals (including IV Core among others) say we are fighting for all EB and are united but when an EB2 with 2007 priority date gets GC but an EB3 32002 is still waiting all that argument falls by the wayside and there is no unity
Ok if IV Core (And when i say IV Core i mean everyone EB2 and EB3 peiople because IV Core is nothing but the EB applicants themselves) cannot or will not try to work towards fixing the dispension of spillover visas to EB2 and EB3 equally because that is the law and the law cannot change why cannot IV Core try to implement (the keyword here is TRY whether the law pases or not is not the point) the 55 K DV to all retrogressed applicants instead of just US MS applicants. They can try to do that but they are not. So in what way is IV a representative of EB3 apprehensions and issues
And there as the bard would say lies the rub
Now again in response to that you and most of the people would agree that IV Core goals is good for EB3. Now out of all the people who agree how many are EB3 and how many are EB2. Again IV Core would say many EB3 agree with what they do because IV is not about helping anyone, IV is about helping yourselves (EB3 or EB2), and when it comes to the fact of helping ourselves i for one feel that IV core would do better to listen to the EB3 voice out there. Why do i feel EB3 specific voice is not being heard? Well the answer to that is very simple. It is because EB3 as a whole has NOT seen any benefit out of the rule changes which happened till now and any new initiative which gets the support of IV.
As to your statement about below
The idea you preferred has no chance, given the harsh economic situation and anti-immigration sentiment at this time
My commnts to that is that YES it is a harsh economic situation and YES anti immigrants sentiments is on the rise but if i am an an anti immigrant i would oppose immigrants as a whole. I would not oppose EB2 immigrants less because they have MS degrees and i would not oppose EB3 less because they are stuck in the immigration process and harsh economics time is harsh for everyone (EB2 and EB3) and also citizens so the same logic of anti immigranst sentiments would apply
Reagrding your another statement
In this case, EB3 will have to wait forever. Now, which one do you like? I think people should be realistic.
What i like is not what is important. What is important is what is done is the right thing., If it is the question of EB3 waiting fore ever (say 10 years) or EB3 waiting more than forever (say 20 years) i would plum for which ever option gives relief to people (even if it extends my GC wait time) who are of older priority date and who should get relief, not because they have waited for so long but because they waited for so long in the line and followed all the rules and it is just mind blowing that people who have applied for GC in 2008 and 2010 and expecting that they deserve to get GC because they are EB2 and no other reason.
Now to that all EB2 guys will reply back saying Are you nuts, that how the world works, if you want a GC sooner get a US degree or apply in EB2 no one is stopping you and all that kinds of statements. It gets ugly too but what everyone forgets is that it is easier to be sanctimonious and give advise when you are not being effected. When you are at the other end (Remember the bottom of the totem pole) that is when you all these things come back to bite you and you cannot justify what you said earlier.
Think about it illegals want GC for everyone illegal. Legals (including IV Core among others) say we are fighting for all EB and are united but when an EB2 with 2007 priority date gets GC but an EB3 32002 is still waiting all that argument falls by the wayside and there is no unity
Ok if IV Core (And when i say IV Core i mean everyone EB2 and EB3 peiople because IV Core is nothing but the EB applicants themselves) cannot or will not try to work towards fixing the dispension of spillover visas to EB2 and EB3 equally because that is the law and the law cannot change why cannot IV Core try to implement (the keyword here is TRY whether the law pases or not is not the point) the 55 K DV to all retrogressed applicants instead of just US MS applicants. They can try to do that but they are not. So in what way is IV a representative of EB3 apprehensions and issues
ujjvalkoul
01-17 03:45 PM
We need to maintain calm in these testing times... Not just for evey member but more so for people who are in the Core teams and doing the day to day activities behind the scene,,,,
We all know we cannot have all ~9000 member working on the issue simultaneously....too many cooks will spoil the broth....so lets play our designated roles..Right now every non core member should just contribute - even $20 is good enough...Imagine $20 * 9000 = $180,000....which could almost match our all time collections yet....
I again request folks to play their role in this moment rather than just sitting idle and waiting for something to happen.....
We all know we cannot have all ~9000 member working on the issue simultaneously....too many cooks will spoil the broth....so lets play our designated roles..Right now every non core member should just contribute - even $20 is good enough...Imagine $20 * 9000 = $180,000....which could almost match our all time collections yet....
I again request folks to play their role in this moment rather than just sitting idle and waiting for something to happen.....
pak
07-21 04:32 PM
E-filed 07/15
Support Doc sent -07/18
Receipt Date 07/16
Waiting for FP date
Support Doc sent -07/18
Receipt Date 07/16
Waiting for FP date